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08MAY2006

Q:
Senior, Is there a web site that has all the latest NSTM chapters on it? If there is can't find it.
A: Navy Knowledge Online has “most” of the NSTMs on it for download. Log on and go the BM homepage
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Q: Why are ships referred to as she?
A:
Although women were considered to bring bad luck at sea, mariners always use the pronoun "she" when referring to their ships. Whether its proper name is masculine, or whether it is a man o'war, a battleship, or a nuclear submarine, a ship is always referred to as "she."

This old tradition is thought to stem from the fact that in the Romance languages, the word for "ship" is always in the feminine. For this reason, Mediterranean sailors always referred to their ship as "she", and the practice was adopted over the centuries by their English-speaking counterparts.

One source suggests that a ship "was nearer and dearer to the sailor than anyone except his mother." What better reason to call his ship "she"?

Chester Nimitz once said “A ship is always referred to as 'she' because it costs so much to keep one in paint and powder”.

Q: Senior, how many Sideboys honor the President?
A: The maximum – 8.

Q: What is the correct ranks and number of Sideboys necessary for a CDR/O5 change of command ceremony with a RDML guest speaker?
A: Ranks do not matter. The number required may be found in Chapter 1 of the BM NAVEDTRA.

Q: Which is the sequence that NPT-13 (B) refers to when hanging Signal Flags to the rigging of a PT Boat at "full dress" scheme.
A: (1) Flag 3 (2) Flag 4 (3) Pennant 1 (4) Sierra (5) 1st Sub (6) Alfa

(7) Prep (8) Charlie (9) Mike (10) Speed (11) Juliett (12) Pennant 5 (13) Romeo (14) Pennant 9 (15) Zulu (16) Corpen (17) Flag 8 (18) Uniform (19) Flag 6 (20) Xray (21) Negat (22) Flag 2 (23) Port (24) November (25) Pennant 2 (26) Tango (27) 2nd Sub (28) Bravo (29) Delta (30) Turn (31) Flag 5 (32) Station (33) Kilo (34) Pennant 6 (35) Whiskey (36) Pennant 0 (37) Flag 1 (38) Oscar (39) 3rd Sub (40) Hotel (41) Echo (42) Emerg (43) Lima (44) Pennant 7 (45) Flag 0 (46) Int (47) Div (48) Pennant 4 (49) Flag 9 (50) 4th Sub (51) Papa (52) Form (53)  Victor (54) Golf (55) Starboard (56) India (57) Foxtrot (58) Quebec (59) Pennant 8 (60) Yankee (61) Desig (62) Flag 7 (63) Pennant 3 (64) Squad (65) Ans

Q: Senior, I am a retired RM1 and preparing for my father's funeral.  He was a WWII veteran of the US. Army and served with the U.S. Navy in the Aleutians throughout his service.  I will be in dress uniform (service blues) for his service and would like to acknowledge his navy connection by use of the bosun pipe.  Is it appropriate for a military funeral ceremony, and if so, is there a proper call that is used.  Additionally, I would like to be the "Piper".  Is that proper?  How can I learn the call if it does exist, which I assume it does.
A: Yes, it is quite appropriate. I would include the piping as the casket was either leaving the ceremony or at the cemetery as the casket is being lowered into the grave. The call would be “Piping the side”. Check my site for the actual calls and instructions: Boatswain's Pipe Info. My condolences.

Q: What's involved in an "inserve inspection"
A: Check out the USN’s “inserv” site with plenty of info: http://www.spawar.navy.mil/fleet/insurv/

Note: If there are any Sailors out there looking for a good Boatswain's Mate or Deck website, have them check out my new site www.thebosnslocker.com. I'm a newly retired Bos'n and just started this business. I sell knives, spikes, sheaths, boatswain's pipes, lanyards, etc, etc, etc. I add more BM stuff to the site everyday, so if they can't find what they're looking for, just have them go to the website and e-mail or call me. All for one and one for all! Thanks! CWO2 Bill Wieber, USN(Ret)

Q: I was told by my LCPO during my OOD board that BM is not the oldest rate in the navy. That there is an older rate before BM. what instruction if any or where could i find out this information to show my LCPO?
A: The USN History site lists the dates of when the various ratings became established: The BM rate was in use in 1775 and established in 1797. No other rate can say that. Look at Enlisted Ratings in U.S. Navy.

Q: Where can i go to take an online able seaman’s test?
A: The USCG does provide the Q & A’s for all Merchant Mariner Document Examinations - USCG MMD Q & A's.

Q: How many Sideboys are required for a retiring Captain? Thank you.
A: BM NAVEDTRA Chapter 1. (4).

Q: Senior, what is "small stuff”?
A:
Line 1 3/4 inches or less in circumference is called small stuff and is designated as to size by the number of threads (or yarns) that make up each strand. You may find anywhere from 6 to 24 thread, but the most commonly used sizes are from 9 to 21 thread. Some small stuff is designated by name. One type is marline—left-laid, two-strand, tarred hemp. Marline is mainly used for seizing.

Q: What date did the navy introduce YNs to the fleet and where do they fall in respect to all other rates in the navy?
A: There were two Yeoman ratings in the Navy. 1)
Yeoman  - Established 1835; disestablished 1884. Re-established from Ship's Yeoman 1893; pay grades C, 1c, 2c, 3c established 1896. 2) Yeoman of the Gunroom - Established 1797; disestablished 1813. Check the other ratings history at Enlisted Ratings in U.S. Navy.

Q: Senior, I recently bought a shell casing. Written on a piece of tape attached to the case is 5"x54 navy. Can you tell me more about this? Thanks and thanks for your service.
A: That would signify that the shell casing is from a 5”/54 Gun Mount. Here is site with great information: Naval Gun Info.

Q: Senior, I was reading some of the questions and answers and came across this one "Q: I was wondering, when piping the sides where does the Honors Bosun stand? I do believe it's to the left and he's closest to where the official party enters?? A: That is correct." Can you tell where to find this information in writing?
A: I have not seen this in writing. It is illustrated in the BM NAVEDTRA and this is the way that I have been taught when I was a junior BM.

Q: Senior, I am Bm2 Hein. I have a question for you Senior. What exactly did BM(CBB),BM(CBS),BM(SRC),BM(SRS),BMB, BMA, BMG, BMK, BMR, And BMS do? And why were there so many different kinds of Boatswain’s Mate ratings? What is a Stevedore? Thank you Senior.
A: Good question…here is a listing the various designations of the BM rating that were utilized throughout the history of the U.S. Navy:

BM - Boatswain's Mate

BM(CBB) - Boatswain's Mate (Construction Battalion) (Boatswain)

BM(CBS) - Boatswain's Mate (Construction Battalion) (Stevedore)

BM(SRC) - Boatswain's Mate (Ship Repair) (Crane Operator)

BM(SRS) - Boatswain's Mate (Ship Repair) (Canvasman)

BMA - Boatswain's Mate (Master-at-Arms)

BMB - Boatswain's Mate (Seabee)

BMG - Boatswain's Mate (Shipboard)

BMK - Boatswain's Mate (Canvasman)

BMR - Boatswain's Mate (Rigger)

BMS - Boatswain's Mate (Stevedore)

A stevedore is a cargo handler or military longshoreman.

 

Q: Where did the flatboats originally start?

A: “Flatboats” were designed for two-reasons. One was for use in shallow water harbors and the other was for use in amphibious assaults or landings on beachheads. Where and when they were originated can probably be dated back to the earliest days of ship construction.

Q: This is more of a statement than a question but it could maybe be answered by you, with some of these questions that these sailors have been asking, how have they made rate with not know what materials to study for the fine Boatswain Mate Rate??
A: I can understand getting some questions from junior sailors, but when I get asked basic BM questions from senior POs, it is a little dis-heartening to say the least. It seems junior people are not opening the books anymore and not as many senior BMs are doing the right thing by their people. You'd think that with all the electronic technology and educational resources that are available now, you would see this trending in a more positive direction. Go figure...I’m just happy to be able to still help.

Q: Do you have any history of the Boatswain?
A: The early Boatswain was appointed Warrant, and was among the most important men on board ship. He was usually a grizzled old salt who wasn't timid about giving orders and it never occurred to him that they wouldn't be obeyed. His mates, or Boatswain’s Mates assisted him, and though it was unlikely that he was unrecognizable, he nevertheless carried a silver Bosn’s pipe and rattan cane that identified his position. His pipe was the sailing ship's PA system. It could be heard 120 feet up in the rigging and in the deepest and darkest hold. His cane was an instrument of persuasion which it was said, cured more scurvy than the doctor, made cripples take up their beds and walk, and made the lame skip and run up the shrouds like monkeys...
As you know, the Boatswain's Mate play an extremely important role in replenishment at sea in today's Navy. However, transfer-at-sea methods were actually used as early as 1804. During the war with Tripoli, for example, the ketch Intrepid transferred a cargo of fresh provisions to USS Constitution, which was engaged in enforcing a continental blockade of the port of Tripoli. This cargo included four bullocks, one calf, 13 pigs, 300 pounds of hay, two baskets of peas, and three casks of old Hock. This maneuver was the springboard for the modern, mobile logistical support now provided through underway replenishment that enables the fleet to remain at sea almost indefinitely.
Not all ratings of this early era have retained their identity, because the majority of our ratings today resulted from later technical developments. While jobs and duties have changed, the rating titles of Boatswain's Mates, Quartermasters and Gunner's Mates have remained the same since the American Revolution.

Q: My recently new-husband is an EM in the U.S. military. He is currently attending A-school.  Is there any way he might be able to get more time on land, or is he actually guaranteed to be on a ship most of the time for the next 4 years?
A: That all depends on what his duty station will be after completing his A School. He will have the option to not be spending his whole 4 years on a ship.

Q: Where can I find correct 1MC standard phraseology?
A: The BM NAVEDTRA 14343 page 1-10.

Q: I'm the only ex-navy engineer in an all-air force team and I've been trying to find a cell phone ringtone that sounds like a bosun's whistle (Just to drive them nuts.) Have you run across this in your travels?
A: I have all the calls on my cell phone. I even “pipe” chow sometimes before I have lunch. Depending on what phone/service you have – download the files and add them to your phones audio files. They are available here for download: Boatswain's Pipe Calls

Q: What is, if any, protocol of using a bosn's pipe at a funeral?  Pre taps, post taps, etc??
A: I did not see any noted. I would imagine “piping the side” as the deceased member is taken out from the ceremony would be appropriate and also quite respectful.

Q: My command has made it a word of mouth policy that E-4's cannot receive higher than an 3 in the leadership block on their evals. Is this acceptable? And if so where? I cannot find it in the BUPERSINST 1610.10A can you please shed some light on this for me.
A: You won’t find it in the BUPERSINST, or will you need to – it is your command’s policy, which makes it acceptable.

Q: Can you tell me the history of taps, and does the song have words?  Thank you.
A: Here is some of the history: History of Taps

Day is done, gone the sun,
From the hills, from the lake,
From the sky.
All is well, safely rest,
God is nigh.

Fades the light; And afar
Goeth day, And the stars
Shineth bright,
Fare thee well; Day has gone,
Night is on.

Thanks and praise, For our days,
'Neath the sun, Neath the stars,
'Neath the sky,
As we go, This we know,
God is nigh

Q: What is ATCS?
A: Aviation Electronic Technician (AT) Senior Chief Petty Officer (CS).

Q: Where can I find the regs for lashing a conex box to the deck using chain?  We have 10,000 lb. boxes and 3/8" chain w/ gripes but we can't seem to trace reference requirements...
A: There are guidance manuals available - Try to get a hold of MTMCTEA Marine Lifting and Terminal Handbook. When I secured containers on MARAD and MPS ships we always used “X” lashing on opposite ends into the cloverleafs.

Q: Where can I buy a tuned pipe?

A: From someone who took the time and effort to tune their pipe themselves. Pipes do not come tuned.

Q: Senior 'On the bib for BM2 it has listed a sar manual I've had great difficulty in locating this book is there any place I can go to to get it or order it considering I'm over seas in Japan.
A: The SAR Manual listed on the BIBS must be obtained by your command.  It is not available on NKO or any other online resource that I know of.  

Q: I'm looking for information on the number of side boys an O-6 and below CO rates. I could only find the number for rear admiral and above. Thanks.
A: 0-6 (Capt) / 0-5 (CDR)= 4 Sideboys, LCDR (0-4) and below = 2 Sideboys. Check page 1-22 of the BM NAVEDTRA.

Q: What instruction governs how many side boys an officer gets?
A: BM NAVEDTRA 14343 Chapter 1

Q: I am a Navy Reserves vet and I am looking for one of my instructors at APG School in New Orleans, Dec 98. We called him Boats. Can you tell me how to find him?
A: Do you have access to NKO? If so do a search in the white pages. If not, check the various "shipmate" locaters that are available online.

Q: Quote from a previous Question: "Q: Most Honorable Senior Chief, I have a question about Navy Customs and courtesy. How do you announce the arrival of a visiting CO from a DDG? Is this the same as all CO's or is it different for a DDG? I know I am reaching but could you throw me a bone? This is what I know. The CO is coming up the brow; "Ding-Ding-pause-Ding-Ding-pause-"shipname" arriving." The CO steps aboard at the top of the brow; "Ding" If this is an expected visit, you should know who the CO was coming to see and called them as soon as you were sure it was the expected CO arriving. That way the person being visited has a chance to either come to the quarterdeck to meet them or can send someone in their place. I believe the the "stinger" was only authorized for the CO of the ship that you are on, not for another CO."
A: Thanks for the email clarifying that!

05APR2006 #18

Q: What is the tradition of the ships bells?
A: There is quite a bit of history here. Check out http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq83-1.htm.

Q: Where exactly does it say that a retiring petty officer or chief petty officer will typically have four side boys and receive 4 bells?
A: All enlisted personnel rate two Sideboys and two bells.

Q: 1) How many bells for a two star? 2) How many side boys does a LCDR get at his retirement?  The guest speaker is a CAPT. 3) How many Sideboys does a Commander rate for his Retirement? 4) How many bells, if any, does a State Congressman receive at an official ceremony?
A: Please open the BM NAVEDTRA and look at the table in Chapter 1.

Q: My name is BM1 and I am getting married in May. I am looking for an instruction on a military ceremony if there is one. I was also wondering, can a white lanyard be worn with the Dinner Dress Blues? I appreciate all of the help you can give me.
A: NAVREGS Ch. 6, 6407 deals with weddings. Ch. 5, 5404 states that t
he boatswain's pipe and lanyard may be worn around the neck while carrying out official ceremonial duties and military watches. 

Q: Can you have Sideboys that are senior to the retiree at a retirement ceremony?
A: Yes.

Q: Senior, looking for any navy training or manuals on docking and undocking, dealing with line handling during the evolution.
A: Take a look at NSTM 582 Mooring and Towing and also the Seaman and BM NAVEDTRA, there is plenty of info there.

Q: I am an MASN currently up for Blue Jacket of the Quarter of my Security Dept.  I have been looking for a study guide for questions that they may ask me on the board.  Do you know of one, or could you direct me somewhere where I may be able to find one?
A: I have never heard of an actual board for a BJOQ selection, it is usually decided through package submittals. There is no Navy-wide BJOQ board study guide. Check with your COC to see if they have developed some command program
.

Q: Hello there, I am currently working at NNSY, VA.  Could you direct me to a web site where I can gain access to NSTM 582? One of the senior riggers needs info on line handling and docking (dry dock that is.) If you can help, or know of any other sites that can provide info, we would appreciate it, Thank-you.
A: NSTM 582 is available in the BM library on NKO. You’ll have to be a service member to access and download.

Q: I am located in South Carolina near Lake Thurmond. I am interested in getting a license that would allow me to take 6+ passengers out on a houseboat in inland waterways only. I know the Coast Guard does the training and testing but I have been unable to find a website with any info as far as training, testing schools, etc. I've tried several Coast Guard sites for Charleston SC but can't find any info...can you help!
A: The USCG will conduct the testing and license issue, but not the any training or schooling. You will have to study on your own or enroll in a training school. There are quite a few – Houston Marine, Sea School and some others. Info for the license as well as Q & A’s that are in each part of the examination can be found at http://www.uscg.mil/stcw/mmic-deckexquest.htm.

Q: I am looking to get a tattoo, and I am being told by other shipmates that I am required to turn in a special request chit requesting permission from the CO before I can get the tattoo.  I understand that the tattoo cannot show while in uniform and cannot be derogatory in any way shape or form, but am I required to route this request chit?
A: Yes, this policy was released in NAVADMIN 021-03, dated January 2003. In summary - No tattoos/body art/brands on the head, face, neck, or scalp. Tattoos/body art/brands elsewhere on the body that are prejudicial to good order, discipline and morale or are of a nature to bring discredit upon the Navy are prohibited. For example, tattoos/body art/brands that are excessive, obscene, sexually explicit or advocate or symbolize sex, gender, racial, religious, ethnic or national origin discrimination are prohibited. In addition, tattoos/body art/brands that advocate or symbolize gang affiliation, supremacist or extremist groups, or drug use are prohibited. Tattoos/body art/brands will not be visible through uniform clothing. Waivers may be requested for prior service and existing tattoos from the Chief of Naval Operations.

Q: Senior, I am non prior service and am a BM; I am a female; when I tell people, they make a face that begin to tell me it isn’t a good rate is why is that so?
A: Did you ask them why? The BM rate has a great history of pride and service within the U.S. Navy. Do BM’s get dirty, work long hours; perform some “not so pleasant” task at times? Sure they do – they also a member of one of the most diversified ratings within the Navy. The BM rating includes everything from small boat ops and amphibious duties to rigging and cargo operations to traditional seamanship duties to security. I am a Boatswain’s Mate and I know quite a few female BMs that are some of the best Navy personnel that I ever had the honor to work with. There are a wide variety of ratings within the Navy today; administrative, engineering, general service; construction, electronic and so on. As long as you enjoy what you do and continue to improve yourself within that field – then who’s to judge your rate. The BM rate was very good to me, both while performing my military service and a key reason for my successes now in my civilian career.

Q: Where can I find the exact location of a formal line handler instruction? I tried the SORM, and some other pubs.
A: NSTM 582 and the BM NAVEDTRA, both are available on NKO.

Q: How do I tune a Boatswain’s pipe?
A: Check the BM NAVEDTRA or here: http://home.earthlink.net/~bosun-m8/id20.html.

Q: Are there any programs for enlisted men to become officers?
A: There are quite few programs in place for enlisted personnel to become Commissioned and non-Commissioned (Warrant) Officers. I won’t give you any info as these programs do change quite frequently, so check with your unit/command CC or Officer Recruiter.

Note from previous inquiry: The funeral flag question...  There is no standard issue funeral flag.  Usually it is the Cotton type found in Vol. 5 of the afloat shopping guide.  Class 8345.  Ensure that it is the one without the tabling, only the cotton and the grommets.  Bos'n Worley (former SMCS)

05MAR2006 #17

Q: I need a book DUTTON’S NAVIGATION AND PILOTING fourteenth edition, but I need it in hispanish, I do not know if it exist.

A: No tengo ninguna idea.

 Q: I wanted to start saying that this is one awesome site, a good BM corner ... now question, with Navy education (i.e. NKO) and courses (i.e. BMR, rate courses) that are available online... are they a waste of time or a good foundation for further advancement and college credit? What is your take??? Thank you for your time...

A: I am a huge supporter of continued education; from college courses to the Navy correspondence courses –they are all beneficial. A requirement to have a college degree for CPO selection shall probably be official in the near future.

For all you BMs out there – contact your Command ESO or College Office and see what credits you already have and focus on obtaining that degree!

 Q: Where can one find pictures or descriptions of the types of buoys and the types anchoring devices (Chains, blocks, semi submerged) used to keep them in place?

A: There are illustrations and descriptions of the various types of buoys in the Boatswain’s Mate RTC in Chapter 6.

 Q: Does the Navy have a police force besides the MAA in which a commissioned officer may serve in?

A: Yes. The Navy’s Force Protection Unit has both enlisted and Officer billets.

 Q: Just trying to figure out how to word the standard mortise of a mooring shackle to be asked in a question.

A: How about “What is 7 inches?

 Q: i leave to go to basic training for the U.S. navy on July 5,2006. When i come home what color/type of uniform along with the hat will i be wearing.

A: The Navy changes from “whites” to “blues” in October. Assuming you’ll be graduating Boot Camp in September, you’ll probably be in whites.

 Q: How do you properly announce a foreign ambassador on the 1mc?

A: “Ambassador, (Country)” arriving/departing.

 

Q: are there leave and liberty chits on pdf?

A: Yes, they are available at  http://www.npc.navy.mil/ReferenceLibrary/Forms/NAVPERS/

 Q: Am I correct when I say that a Rear Admiral rates six bells and six side boys? Also can you tell me where I can find how many bells a first class rates for their retirement? Thanks.

A: All enlisted personnel rate 2 bells and yes, a Rear Admiral rates 6. Check page 1-22 of NAVEDTRA 14343 Boatswain's Mate RTC.

 Q: I'm an e-7 initiate in the us coast guard. I'm looking for the meaning of the chief's hat box. can you help me out your honorable eightness.

A: Slug - Are you looking for the history of the USN CPO Hat Box or the USCG CPO Hat Box? (Congrats!)

 Q: I am trying to find the history of the Coast Guard Coxswain pin, where can I look?

A: I could not find any info on the actual history of the USCG Coxswain pin. I have reached out to some USCG BM sources and if I hear back from them I will post the response.

 Q: Where could I find decorative rope splicing basics??
A: The NAVEDTRA 14342, Boatswain’s Mate RTC for starters. My favorite book is Ashley's Book of Knots, which is available at most bookstores and online.

Q: where can i find about lci 733
A: The Navy Source Online website has information at http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/150733.htm.

Q: Senior,what do the three parts of The SWCC warfare pin?
A: The three parts of the surface warfare pin are the bow and superstructure of a modern naval warship on two crossed cutlasses, on a background of ocean swells.

Q: Well I stumped you a year or so ago on life rail pin lanyards, let's see if I can do it again. I am still on the same LCU but now am in need of a COMPLETE 1mc system. Have the optar to cover the cost of procurement and installation, but do not know where to start looking. Again any help would be much appreciated.
A: Last time you stumped me, now your scaring me (lol)...Are there any SK's on that ship of yours?

Q: I have a question regarding the display of the National Ensign on a shore activities quarterdeck, in the NTP 13 it clearly states the flag onament shall be a battle axe some one thinks it should be a ball or a star for the grade of our C.O. Please give me some direction and if possible tell me if there is a newer revision of the NTP 13 the only one I have found is from August 1986. Thank you,
A: NTP 13(B), which is the current revision, states in section "802. TOPPING ORNAMENT", that "Flagpoles at Naval shore activities shall be topped with a brass ball of appropriate size."

Q: I know that the Monkey's fists of heaving lines used to be weighted with lead balls.  Do you know what is currently used on heaving lines in today's Navy?  Size weight, composition, etc?

A: Due to the accuracy of some Boatswain’s Mates resulting in hitting the “white hats” on the pier, monkey fists are no longer used. The Navy now uses a flexible ball with an opening for the heaving line to be fairlead through and secured. The heaving line balls are orange and also buoyant.

 Q: I made e-4 of the sept exam 05 and was 05 jsoq and jsoy for november and year of 05. I was told i would get an ep on my next eval so would I be able to take the exam in march 06 for e-5?

A: This is correct. If you are an EP, you will be eligible to sit for your advancement exam early.

 Q: colors are the flags on the phone and distance line

A: Starting at “0”, marking every 20’ and repeating as follows: Green, Red, Yellow, Blue, and White. (NWP 4-01.4)

Q: I'M SEARCHING FOR THE YN2 2006 BIBLIOGRAPHIES

A: Access this site: https://www.advancement.cnet.navy.mil/.

 Q: BMR requirements for the 2006 e-5 advancement

A: See the above answer.

 Q: Senior, What is the number of bells at a memorial service for a past commodore?

A: A Commodore rates 6 bells.

 Q: Is there any regulation for or against the wearing of knives, marlinespike or sheath on your belt in uniform? Thanks, EM1.

A: Knives and such are authorized for wear with a working uniform as long as they are necessary for the proper performance of one’s duty and authorized by the proper authority.


Q: How did the tradition come about to "pipe" someone over the side during a retirement, and is it traditional for the boatswain to surrender the pipe to the retiree?

A: Tending the side with side boys, as we know it in modern practice, originated long time ago. It was customary in the days of sail to hold conferences on the flagships both when at sea and in open roadstead; also, officers were invited to dinner on other ships while at sea, weather permitting. Sometimes the sea was such that visitors were hoisted aboard in boatswain's chairs. Members of the crew did the hoisting, and it is from the aid they rendered in tending the side that the custom originated of having a certain number of men always in attendance. Some have reported the higher the rank, the heavier the individual; therefore, more side boys.

Over the years this has developed into a tradition of respect such as is displayed at Retirement Ceremonies. It is also a tradition for the Boatswain to present the pipe as a final gift.

 

Q: Can a member with 19 years and an approved Fleet Reserve request be be separated for three PRT failures before reaching their 20?

A: According to the current PRT requirements – yes you can.

 Q: OLDEST RATE IN THE NAVY

A: Boatswain's Mate - In use in 1775; established 1797.

 Q: It is a sad day to see so many Boatswain's Mates asking where they can buy a lanyard. What happened to the days when you were presented your pipe after you presented your own lanyard. The sennits are not difficult, ok a little time is needed but the pride in your accomplishment goes along with the pride of being a BOATSWAIN'S MATE!

A: No argument here! Part of the proud history of being a BM was making your own lanyard when you were advanced to BM3. I remember the Senior BM's helping me out when I made BM3. If our new BMs are not taking the time to make their own, maybe we should be looking at the rated BMs to step up and provide some guidance and instruction...

 Q: i am going up for hm3 this march and i was just wondering if you know a good web site to look for instructions.

A: Here is a GREAT link that has the bibs and other advancement resources for HMs on it: http://www-nmcp.mar.med.navy.mil/HMTraining/index.asp.

 Q: Trying to find information as to what the rating/grade was like for Navy personnel back in the 1940's, from Seaman on up. Example:  StM3c-StM2c, StM2c-StM1c.  I'm told that the order in rank was different from today's ranking.

A: Here is a good link: http://www.cv6.org/company/muster/organization.htm.

 Q: Senior, I need to learn the boatswain's signals.  Is there a book of instruction to tell me what signal is what and how to make that signal come from the pipe?  Thanks for the help.

A: Here is some of the info:

http://home.earthlink.net/~bosun-m8/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/boatswainpipe.pdf.

 Q: What is the proper tie up procedure for small boats?

A: Refer to Chapter 6 of the BM RTC. There are too many variables that may change how a small boat moors, tide, current, wind speed and direction and of course where are you mooring i.e. dockside, boat boom…

 Q: where can i find nstm 581?

A: Between 580 and 582… just kidding – 1) Log on to NKO, 2) Go to the NKO Library, 3) Scroll down to "Search and Subscribe", 4) Click on that and scroll down until you see "Surface Combat Systems" and click "View", 5) Scroll down until you see the BM page. Click on that link and you'll be in BM heaven with all the material and references that are available there.

 Q: Senior, what is a chip log?

A: The “chip log” was a device that sailors used to make their speed measurements. Chip as in chip of wood, and log as in to record in a log. The chip was a wedge of wood about 18" in size; it was tied to one end of a line on a large spool. The rope had knots tied into it about every 47'3". The wooden chip was thrown overboard at the ship's stern. Because of its wedge shape, it would "grab" the water and start pulling out line as the ship moved forward at some yet unknown speed. One man would hold the spool of line as it paid out; another man would start a sandglass filled with 30 seconds of sand; and a third man would count the knots as they passed over the stern board. When the 30 seconds of sand expired, the timekeeper would call out and the counting of knots would stop.

 Q: I am looking to get a web site or area I can look up all my ribbons and medals that I/my ships have earned while I was on those ships. I served on the USS Willamette AO-180 from Mar 93-Nov 96 (with one last name), had a break in service, and then went on the USS Reuben James FFG-57 from July 03 until Feb 05. I have looked around even on the old Willamette website but found nothing.

Also I have been having trouble keeping my record straight with all my qualifications due to my adoption and name change during my break in service. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

A: Hopefully you made copies of everything that was awarded to you…To obtain information about unit awards earned, contact the Chief of Naval Operations, Awards and Special Projects Branch at the below address. This office can identify awards earned by Navy units.

Chief of Naval Operations
Awards and Special Projects Branch (Code N09B33)
2000 Navy Pentagon
Washington, D.C. 20350-2000

 Q: where, if i can, can i download the 23rd edition of the blue jackets manual?

A: I do not know of any place you can download the current edition (23rd) of the Blue Jackets Manual. It is available for purchase from the NEX online.

 Q: whare can i find "basic millitary requirements navedtra 10054-f

A: Is that a current edition? If so log onto Navy Knowledge Online (NKO) and search the libraries.

 Q: Senior, How can I find the location of chief petty officer Clarence Donovan retired? Last know in Jacksonville Naval Air Station.

A: If you are a member of the USN, log onto to NKO and search for him in the white pages. Even though he is retired, he will still have contact info posted.

 Q: HEY SENIOR, WHAT COLOR IS A WORKING LANYARD?

A: There is no “working” lanyard as described in U.S. Navy Regulations Chapter 5 Section 4. However...black lanyards are usually worn as “working” lanyards.

 Q: Where can I find instructions on how to blow/use the boatswain's pipe. My father wants to learn, so he can pipe his friend when he passes away.

A: The best place would be from the Boatswain’s Mate NAVEDTRA and with the assistance of a “salty” BM. If you’re not a sailor and don’t have any BM buddies to help you – there are quite a few websites that show how to perform the various calls and even have sound files to listen to. http://home.earthlink.net/~bosun-m8/

 Q: Senior, How can I find a Blue Jackets Manual from the 1950,s

A: Go to  http://www.bluejacket.com/books/books_used_bluejackets_manual.html. They have various editions for sale there. And of course don’t forget ebay…

 Q: I am performing in a Stars & Stripes concert with an all alumni drum & bugle corps.  We are playing the Navy Hymn as one of our (final) selections and I was thinking that a lead in on the boatswain pipe would be nice.  What call do you think would be appropriate for such an occasion? All Hands? PS: My father was a "Boats" and a Pear Harbor vet, serving on the USS Nevada.  I, myself, was a Sea Bee. (MCB 7)

A: “All Hands” would be appropriate. Thanks for serving!

 Q: Senior, what is the NSN for a FUNERAL FLAG?

A: I had no luck with this one. Any help out there?

 Q: where do you order the manuals.  From what web site do you order them from.
A: You may download them from NKO. Log onto the NKO site and go to the
Boatswain's Mate homepage. They are available for download there. You can
also order a CD from www.1navy.com.

Q: Senior, find blue jacket manual
A: The Blue Jacket Manual is available from any NEX store or
www.navy-nex.com. You can also find older editions of the book at www.bluejacket.com.

Q: Senior,  I'm a BM2 in the reserves.  I am seeking a way to earn my ESWS
pin.  Do you know of any ships that can fund me to come onboard to work on
my ESWS?
A: Qualifying for ESWS as per the ESWS instruction in the USNR is difficult.
There is usually $$$ available for fleet support billets where you can start
on obtaining qualification for ESWS. Check with your NRC to see what
opportunities are available.

 Q: Senior, where can I buy a boatswain's mate lanyard and pipe, besides e-bay?
A: You can purchase U.S. Navy Boatswain Pipes form vanguard at http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/view_product.php?product=4923&searchlink=yes&search=BOATSWAIN&page=1 .The only site that I know of where you can purchase lanyard is at http://www.oramasnautical.com/lanyards/lanyards.htm or make your own at http://home.earthlink.net/~bosun-m8/index.html.

Q: Is INSERVE inspection criteria online anywhere?
A: Yes "INSURV" checklists are available. Go to http://www.spawar.navy.mil/fleet/insurv/ and click on the "Inspection Preps" link.

Q: Hello , I am a BM3 and i am stationed in hawaii with the marines i just have one question for you SENIOR i have just hit my 6 years and i have taken the test 5 times and i just miss it by like 3 pionts i am a very good sailor and i love the navy i am worry about higher tenyear if i dont make it what happens does the navy give me any money on my way out.
A: You only missed by a few points, so don't give up just yet. Are all you medals and awards documented in your service record and your advancement profile sheet? Have you looked at your exam results and see what areas you need to study a little harder? Do you reference the exam bibliographies prior to doing any studying? All these items will help with raising your exam scores and getting you that 2nd chevron. The Navy doesn't give out any bonuses for HYT... 

Q: How many bells for a 4 star general?
A: AHHHHHHHHHH! Open the damn book!!!! (8)

Q: Happy Holiday, I'm trying to get all the study material for BM2 exam for Feb.2006.
A: Happy Holidays to you also, Thanks you. BM advancement CDs are available from www.1navy.com. You will have to provide proof of service prior to the CD being sent out due to distribution restrictions. You can also access and download most of the BM info yourself from the BM homepage /library at NKO.

Q: Questions about Leadership, Today the Navy is not about much Leadership the Chief's Mess an Master Chief Walk around as though they are better than you and don't have much involvement with the troops. Crazy but being on Active Duty for Fourteen years,, an watching is really something, The uppers in the military lack Leadership, and guidance,,,It is somehow lost. How could the CMDCMC stand there an tell the new Chiefs of today okay so now is your time to shine with leadership, though as it may seem I think maybe they should have this before they decide to promote them so they can sit around and eat donuts and play on the internet all day and walk around and show off, instead why don't they take their troops under their wing and show them guidance.
A: I retired last October. I never had time to sit around and eat donuts, play on the Internet, or show off. I was usually too busy taking care of my command's personnel and operational commitments. I have also witnessed MANY fellow CPOs providing outstanding leadership and guidance to junior enlisted members in an effort to assist them with all sorts of professional and personal issues. Unfortunately, like you have stated, I have also been witness to the small minority of Navy "Leaders" whose priority is pinning ribbons on their own chest. The Navy is by no means a perfect society and neither is the Navy's advancement system. No place is, and that's a reality of life. It would be unfair for me to comment on your specific experiences, but if you've witnessed this at each command during your 14 years of service..something is not adding up...

Q: Confused on Chief Leadership with small amphib staff command. Why would leadership, give higher eval marks to personnel that have been on board less than a year and are new first class, and give the senior first class lower evals and non sufficent collateral duties to make the shine, why if your in a leadership position would you want junior first class to shine above senior first class that are lookin for leadership and guidance from the chief mess.
A: Again, I will not comment on "Command specific issues" as there are usually various versions of the actual "truth". I do know that people "shine" due to performance, not due to their seniority.

Q: this is a more career related question. i am currently a BM2 on recruiting duty, i transfer in 2008, and i want to go to bahrain or afghanistan, and from there go to RTC to be a RDC. i don't know if it would be good for me to go overseas next or go back to another ship first. i'm just trying to do duties that will enhance my chances on making chief the quickest, and i really don't know which route to take, would just like a senior's opinion. thanks.
A: My opinion - If you are coming off of recruiting duty - get yourself back onboard a ship. BMs belong on ships. Try to show some diversity in your sea duty - tin cans - carriers - amphibs.

Q: Why would they merger RP's with YN's, most RP's can't get a clearance or joined the navy on a drug waiver, My Opinion but they should keep the rates seperate, I can't see, taking care of officers and admin as a religious job,,,What is the Navy thinking,,,I don't think they are.
A: You say "Most RP's can't get a clearance or joined the Navy on a drug waiver". That is a pretty ignorant statement. Here's why the merger: Combining the RP, LN, and CTA, and YN ratings into one administrative rating falls in line with the CNO guidance of streamlining Navy manpower. Merging repetitive, redundant and superfluous efforts will maximize the capability of the administrative community while minimizing the total number of manpower requirements. Through this merger, Navy can minimize redundancy in functions and training and improve business processes, thereby reducing infrastructure costs while improving service for the customer and quality of life and professional opportunity for the Sailors. Merger of these four ratings will provide increased detailing flexibility, broader career paths and advancement opportunity for personnel, and enhance overall quality within ship and shore administrative departments. A merger will also align all of the Navy administrative skills with commercial Administrative Assistant, Executive Assistant, and Paralegal professional certifications and qualifications. Additionally, savings from training consolidation and billet reductions will allow Navy to recapitalize for modernization.

 Q: Senior, I'm PS2, currently station on NAS Lemoore in a squadron. We have a senior cheif retiring soon and I said I would be proud to pipe him off. I've heard time and time again the famous sound of the bosn pipe, but there has to be more to it than just blowing in it. Where can I look to find some directions such as hand and finger placement, since there is not a BM on a Naval Air Station?

A: Your best bet would be to take a look at the Boatswain's Mate NAVEDTRA. That has illustrations and info for all the pipe calls. You can also check out sites that have mp3 files of the Pipe Calls so you can hear them and practice. Here is mine: http://home.earthlink.net/~bosun-m8/.

 

Q: How do I moor to a buoy?

A: Check the BM RTC 4-11 thru 4.14 and also NSTM 582, Section 582-2.1.3. That has all the info for how to properly moor to a buoy.

 

Q:The question was asked; "Q: I was curious as to what person has had the longest tenure in Naval service?" Thanks to USAF MSgt/Ret for this info:

A: Admiral Hyman G. Rickover graduated from the US Naval Academy in 1922 and retired in 1981 making his tenure 63 years. I believe he had the longest tenure in the Navy.

 

Q: Have you ever seen any guidance with regards to making stoppers? I've always seen 3 strand nylon unlaid and formed into a flat sennit for the parts involved with the "knot" - with the three strand left for the bight. NSTM 613 describes sizes and stopper types - but nothing about general construction. Thanks for your time.

A: I checked NSTM 613 & 582 and could not find any details on construction of stoppers. Like you have said, I have used unlaid 3-strand nylon mooring lines and have also seen riggers utilize smaller 3-strand nylon line (intact) in the same fashion. I'll keep looking.

 

Q: When an officer is coming on board or leaving, does the officer on deck call him/her by his/her command? That is, if the CO of the Enterprise is leaving the ship, does the OOD say "Enterprise" leaving. If a gun turret commander is leaving do they say "Gun 5" leaving. I saw that in a movie once and I can't find reference to it anywhere. I once asked the mother of the XO of the Enterprise that questions and she didn't know. Hope you can help and point me to right reference materials.

A: Passing the word and the use of boat gongs to announce the arrival and departure of senior officers are not means of rendering honors, nor are they intended to be. Passing the word and boat gongs are used to indicate the arrival and departure of commanders, chiefs of staff, chief staff officers, and commanding officers for interested personnel. Arrivals and departures are to be announced only during the hours between reveille and taps. Commanding officers should be familiar with local SOPA regulations concerning the use of topside speakers for passing arrivals and departures and other shipboard announcements.

Sound the boat gong, special gong, or gas alarm (as specified locally) in groups of two corresponding to the number of side boys to which the officer announced is entitled. Announce the officer’s title followed by "arriving" or "departing". You can find this information in the NAVEDTRA 14343, Boatswain's Mate RTC.

Q: Where do I find all of the answers to the Boatswain's Mate NRTC? I really don't feel like doing any of the work myself, I'd rather let someone else sweat that one out. Thanks! Signed, Someone who has to take the BMC exam but isn't really a BM.

A: Until you change your attitude (for the better) - Do us all a favor and don't bother. Hopefully your command has recognized that you lack the qualities of a CPO and will not recommend you for advancement. Have a nice day!

 

Q: I was just wondering what the Naval Rank of FC2 means. My father was in World War II and I was told that was his rank but I have no idea what it means.

A: Fire Controlman Second Class Petty Officer.

 

Q: how do you locate a dc1 in mil/navy?

A: If you are a Navy member look that person up on NKO by using the "white pages" search link. If you are not - there are several locator websites (i.e navyemail.com)

 

Q: how many sideboys will you need for a o-7

A: I won't need any. You on the other hand should be opening up the BM RTC and looking at page 1-22 for this answer. (6 Side boys)

 

Q: my name is BM2 i have been in the NAvy for 6 years this december 28th. in my world there is no job i can say i love more than being a boatswainmate. i have my bm1 exam coming up in march and i am having a real hard time studying for my exam. right now i am a recruiter in chicago, sometime "this" job is like doing 24hr unreps. i read my bm1 book but i find it hard to remember the stuff i read. any pointers? thanks so much for your time. maybe one day i will be able to call myself "chief" boats.

A: Nothing beats OJT!... and as a recruiter, you're probably not getting your hands as dirty as some other sailors who will be taking the same BM1 exam. I would recommend using the exam bibs, which will minimize what you should be studying. Good luck...

 

Q: where can I find the NWP 4-01.4 and 3-50.1 on the internet to download?

A: The NWP 4-01.4 (UNREP) is availabe at NKO in the BM library and on the BM homepage. The 3-50-1 (SAR) is not available for internet download.

 

Q: where can i buy a pennant for small boats? like the 1 star the 2 star and so on. ive been looking for it all over the internet but i couldnt find one...

A: Did you try ebay?

 

Q: My dad was a 30 year navyman from the Yangtze River to Vietnam. In WWII he was a W-1 & CWO Boatswain Mate on destroyers in the North Atlantic. I have been trying to assemble a little display of Bosun things in his memory. I'd like to find the collar, cap, and shoulder devices for W-1 & CWO (with the crossed anchors) and some shoulder boards, along with a whistle and lanyard. Can you direct me to a place that sells WW II era navy warrant officer things please? Thank you.

A: Check out http://www.vanguardmil.com/store/splash.php. They have most WO items available for sale.

 

Q: I'm a BM2 and proud but, the test is killing me. I need all the information and prefer it on cd so I can study and review it.Is there a web site that I can get all the information of a Boatswain's Mate and study guide for the test?

A: Yes there is. A BM advancement CD with all the reference material is available from YN2 at www.1navy.com. Just follow the links for the advancement CDs. Quite a few of the BM referenced material is also available on NKO for download on the BM homepage.

 

Q: Senior, I'm an SK3 with 4 years in the Reserves and it doesn't look good for advancement. I'm interested in switching to Mineman but can't find the advancement opportunities for this rate. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

A: I didn't see this info listed online. Check with your unit or command Career Counselor. They receive periodic updates that list advancement opportunities and rate/rank manning levels.

 

Q: Senior, just what did the bosun rattan cane look like,straight,crooked top, our
very thin and straight?

A: I was fortunate enough to never have to use one, but I would have to imagine that it was only a couple of feet long, rather thin and straight.

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Q: Senior, what's a good rule of thumb to remember the blasts during towing operations.

A: The best rule of thumb for me to remember the signals was to learn them all. There is a table in NSTM 582 Mooring and Towing page 82-90, that lists all the signals and their meanings. There are only ten signals, so I'm sure you won't have any problems...

 

Q: I have been showed several ways how to pipe belay. I would like to know where to find the correct boatswain call.

A: You can hear "belay" and download it right from the U.S. Navy site at http://www.npc.navy.mil/CommandSupport/NavyMusic/AUDIO.htm or from my site at http://home.earthlink.net/~bosun-m8/id20.html.

 

Q: Is there any instruction governing how many bells are sounded for the liberty boat while at anchor? Thanks!!

A: I am assuming you mean over the ship's 1MC? If so the bells are used to signify the estimated time to departure: 3 bells = 10 minutes; 2 bells = 5 minutes and 1 bell = 1 minute.

 

Q: do we have a boatswain's mate association?

A: I have not seen a BM association anywhere. I have seen an ABM association online. If anyone knows of one - pass the word.

 

Q: How do I display the 50 state flags at a formal ceremony?

A: They should be displayed in alphabetical order...

 

Q: Where online can I find and download the NWP 3-50.1 U.S. Navy Search and Rescue Manual?

A: After searching and inquiring at NKO, it appears that NWP 3-50.1 is NOT available online (The SAR Joint Pub Manual is).

 

Q: What is a dragon bowline?

A: This is in the same category of a "BT punch" and the mail-buoy watch. First you make a regular bowline; then you hold it by the bitter end and drag the eye along the deck. That's why it is called a "draggin" bowline.

 

Q: I am able to wear my global war on terrorism service and expeditionary medal/ribbons but I have been wondering if I am able to wear the Afghanistan and Iraqi campaign medals/ribbons? My deployment times was from the end of august 2002-May of 2003, would those times qualify me to wear the ribbons/medals?

A: Wearing of medals and ribbons must be authorized. Have you received the authorization from your unit and have a service record entry noting the same?

 

Q: Can you give me the different kinds of knot tying in scouting?, just the lists, please....

A: I was not a Scout, but according to their website: The Boy Scouts have selected five knots that will fill most of the Cub's needs.  These knots are Square Knot, Sheet Bend, Bowline, Two Half Hitches and Slipknot.

 

Q: My ship (USS PHILIPPINE SEA (CG 58 ) HAS JUST RECIVED SPECTRA MOORING LINES ( 1 1/2" ) . MY SHIP IS ABOUT TO GO THROUGH INSERVE ,THE INSPECTORS ARE TELLING US THAT WE HAVE TO INSTALL TATTLETALE'S OF 1/4 POLYESTER FIBER LINE. MY PROBLEM IS I CAN NOT FIND OUT THE PROPER LENTH. IN THE NSTM 583 ALL IT SAYS IS TO USE IT TO DETERMINE STRAIN OF THE LINE AS PER APPENDIX D .CAN YOU HELP ME OUT ?

A: SPECTRA lines are designed to not require "tattletales". This line was engineered with one strand slightly shorter than the others, causing it to break first when the line was about to fail, dissipating energy and alerting sailors to clear the premises.

 

Q: Senior, How many side boys for an admiral?

A: Does anybody open a book anymore ( NAVEDTRA 14343, the Boatswain's Mate Nonresident Training Course, starting on page 1-22)..??? An "Admiral" rates  8 Side Boys.

 

Q: I am looking for the bibliographies for the March 2006 HM3 exam

A: Here is  GREAT link that has the bibs and other advancement resources for HMs on it: http://www-nmcp.mar.med.navy.mil/HMTraining/index.asp.

 

Q: I am trying to get a copy of the NWP 4-01.4 for my BM2 Exam and I need some help finding it could you help me.

A: Log on to NKO and follow the directions above. The NWP 4-01.4 is available in the BM library.

 

Q: How do you make the knots in the monkey lines?

A: Use either overhand or figure-eight knots - evenly spaced.

 

Q: My dad, MMC (ret) just passed away this morning. I want to know where I can find the info to send him off. How do we have a service for him. The Navy was his life. 1954-1977. I am a BM1 USNR, I have not had to do this before.

A:  My condolences. May he rest in peace.

Funeral honors kits have been provided to most funeral homes. This kit contains all the information required to request funeral honors. A funeral home or the family representative can request funeral honors for any eligible member. The funeral home will coordinate everything with the area coordinator. For further information call:

Navy Personnel Command (NPC-621)
Casualty Assistance Branch
5720 Integrity Dr.
Millington, TN 38055-6210
1-800-368-3202
e-mail:
NavyCasualty@persnet.navy.mil

The office is open from 7:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. Central Time, Monday through Friday, but your call will be automatically routed to the Navy Personnel Command Duty Officer during off-duty hours.

 

Q: Are commissioned officers authorized to wear a boatswain's pipe and lanyard on watch?

A: Navy Regs state that "The boatswain's pipe and lanyard may be worn around the neck while carrying out official ceremonial duties and military watches." Does a Commissioned Officer use the Boatswain's Pipe to carry out official duties at ceremonies or while on watch? The answer to that is "no" and the answer to your question is "NO". Boatswain's Pipes and Lanyards are for Boatswain’s Mates.

 

Q: I know what USN is, but what is FTS?

A: "FTS" is part of the Active Duty Reserve Program  and stands for Full Time Support. The FTS enlisted community includes 12,000 Sailors in a variety of ratings. Some ratings have well over a thousand Sailors while others may have less than 200. FTS' mainly deal with the Reserve side of the USN. 

 

Q: How do I tie a bowline??????

A: Begin with a small overhand loop (the loop goes over the standing part). Be sure to leave enough in the bitter end for the size of the eye that you'll need; Form the eye of desired size; Pass the bitter end up through the small loop, around the standing part, and back through the small loop, this time going down. Tighten it up. 

Refer to figure 3-15, 3-16 and 3-17 on page 3-12 and 3-13 of the Seaman RTC for the different variations of the bowline. 

 

Q: How do I chip paint??

A: With either hand tools such as a paint scraper and chipping hammer or with pneumatic and electric power tools such as needleguns, knuckle punchers and grinders. Enjoy the hours of fun...

 

Q: Senior, do you know where I may be able to purchase a lanyard for a call?

A: Scroll down there is a link to a website that sells Boatswain's Lanyards...

 

Q: I have a member who has been looking for the origin of "The green Carpet" or "Green table cloth" for CO's NJP proceedings. Any tips or stories.

A: I had no luck in finding any specific significance to the "green table cloth".

Although no longer true, there was a time when only the top officers had carpets in their offices. Hence the carpet referred to the office of a senior officer.  In military parlance, called on the carpet refers to having to present oneself to a superior officer, report at attention and receive a disciplining for some offense.  Sometimes a defense is allowed, but often, the communication is quite simple, clear, and unidirectional, with the recipient being forced to stand at attention while the abuse takes place. I do have some stories, but not to be shared here... ;).

 

Q: An old friend was in Navy in ww2. On left sleeve of uniform is a crest about the size of a coast guard crest. He was a BM2 (Right arm rate)and a Deep sea diver. Any suggestions?

A: Until 1949 rating badges were worn on either the left or right sleeve, depending on the watch section of the individual. The port section wore their badges on the left arm.

However, one hears the term "right arm rate" which from 1841 until 1949 denoted men of the seaman branch. These rates included boatswains mate, turret captain, signalman, quartermaster, gunners mate, fire controlman, mineman and torpedoman. Other ratings wore the rating badge on the left sleeve.

The eagle on the petty officer rating badge is derived from the Napoleonic eagle. This eagle was usually embroidered facing left. Why the Napoleonic eagle faces left is unknown. In 1941, the Navy changed the eagle's facing direction to follow the heraldic rules which face right toward the wearer's sword arm. This rule continues to apply and the eagle now faces to the front or the wearer's right. Bluejacket slang for the eagle is "crow."

 

Q: How much time will I have after bootcamp, to pack my family up and move to our new order destination?

A: That all depends on a number of variables - Where is your duty station; Deployment date of command / unit; is there housing available, and more. Time is allotted for moving, but there are a lot of other questions that must be answered first...

 

Q: Senior, How can I obtain the prep test for a Able body seamans test?

A: The USCG has a site where you can download Q & A's at http://www.uscg.mil/stcw/mmic-deckexquest.htm. There are also commercial companies that provide training and instruction. (Houston Marine is the one I used to get my USCG License - http://www.houstonmarine.com/)

 

Q: For FAS why dose the npw4-01.4 ask for a 10 or 12 inch fairlead block for the star messenger if the largest cir size on it is only 3in plated.

A: A good rule is to use a block 3X the size of the line as a minimum. Taking into consideration the beckets that must also pass through the block, 10" or 12" is ideal.

 

Q: Senior, Is BELFAST twisted cord or Twine still available.??? In the 1940's and 1950's I used to make square knotted ( and Granny knots )belts out of it. It was about 1/64 of an inch in diameter and came in white or black. Thank you for your answer and I hope it is a positive response. I want to start making belts again.

A: True Belfast Cord in next to impossible to find (if at all anymore). You can use "cable cord" which is extremely similar and comes in various sizes. Cable cord is available at most arts and crafts stores and dyes quite nicely.

 

Q: I was curious as to what person has had the longest tenure in Naval service?

A: I did an awful lot of searching and could not find the answer to this question... Does anyone know who holds this honor?

 

Q: I am a BM1 currently attached to a Pre-com Destroyer unit and I'm the only one here from my division and I want to start constructing deck instructions. I need guidance on where to start? Is their a set list of instructions required for small boy deck divisions? Help.

A: Is this the first of a new class? If not check with the deck division of one of your sister ships. You state that you are the only one assigned to your division... you may want to wait till more shipmates arrive...

 

Q: Senior, my senior chief is retiring next month I need to get him a dress blues lanyard with fancy work on it do you know were I can order or buy one?

A: The only place online that offers lanyards for sale that I know of is http://www.oramasnautical.com/lanyards/lanyards.htm. Have you thought of making one for him...? 

 

Q: I am trying to locate specific Medals or Awards that I am entitled to wear with pride despite being Honorably Discharged for the past 14 or so years. I upon discharged received a certificate in the mail for a Humanitarian Award but no metal enclosed. I was discharged after DS in 2/1991. Can you point me to the information that I seek? I want my medals, awards, ribbons, etc. as well as I would like to have them reflected on my DD-214.

A: "Despite being Honorably Discharge"...??? Here is how you can get info for your medals and awards: Veterans are entitled to one replacement set of their medals. The Standard Form (SF 180), Request Pertaining to Military Records, is recommended for requesting medals and awards. Provide as much information as possible and send the form to:
Bureau of Naval Personnel Liaison Office
Room 5409, 9700 Page Avenue
St. Louis, MO 63132-5100

To obtain information about unit awards earned, contact the Chief of Naval Operations, Awards and Special Projects Branch at the below address. This office can identify awards earned by Navy units.
Chief of Naval Operations
Awards and Special Projects Branch (Code N09B33)
2000 Navy Pentagon
Washington, D.C. 20350-2000

 

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Q: I spent a lot of time on highline details (I was an FT 1960-69), but I never learned the proper names for the lines and pieces we were working with. What's the names of the device carrying the high line hook, the lines we used to pull that device back and forth and the main line that it rode on?

A: The trolley block is the device that holds the hook; the inhaul and outhaul lines are used to move the cargo between ships; the highline is the line the trolley block rides on.

 

Q: Senior, where did the title coxswain originate?

A: Scroll down, the answer is below...

 

Q: Senior, when are you going to update the website?

A: All updates will be posted at http://home.earthlink.net/~bosun-m8/id21.html while YN2 deals with her current situation.

 

Q: I'm trying to find a web site or store I can buy a marlinspkie.  Do you know where I can find one?  Thanks.

A: They are available from the Navy stock system. You can also do a search on google, they are available from numerous websites.

 

Q: Senior, I was wondering if you sell all of the nstm's on a c.d. rom or something because trying to find them all just isnt that great on the internet.

A: They are available on CD from YN2 at www.1navy.com or you can download them from the BM homepage on NKO yourself.

 

Q: Senior,I need a phone number to call you about the CD on line.

A: Email me at bosun-m8@earthlink.net.

 

Q: Whom Do I contact to volunteer for Mobilization?

A: Check with your unit and NRC for Mobilization Opportunities. They should be able to provide you with a listing of available opportunities.

 

Q: Senior, what's the standard mortise of a mooring shackle?

A: The standard mortise of any size mooring shackle is 7".

 

Q: What is the offical publication/instruction for standard Navy 1MC phraseology announcements?